More Penquine Goodness....

[Mazia]

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=a ... =460&num=1

X2 and X3 are Elite clones....

[Turook]

I loved Elite

Playing advanced versions of it sorta ruins it for some reason.

[Mazia]

I still enjoy X3. Takes an ubermachine to make it smooth tho.

[Turook]

Thats the whole point, Elite isn't meant to be smooth.
Hell if your'e a puritst you don't even have shaded surfaces on

[Mazia]

Elite was all wireframes for me what you talking about?

[Turook]

There was an option in a later version to have coloured surfaces.

[Melodionxxx]

Yah, the shaded version es El33t.

My first love in computer games, I was the greatest docker ever. Auto-docker? For wimps!

BTW: I love how Linux freeks are soooo impressed when someone manages to get a single game working on their gimp useless OS!

MeloxXx

[Mazia]

Man you should have seen people on the early PC clone BBS's then.

Same shit different year the world moves on.

[Melodionxxx]

But Linux hasnt =)

[Mazia]

Well actually it has - I dont use it cause its still too much of a pain in the ass but its definitely up to windows95 status now.

Lots more wizard install engines to help the non technical. A lot more commercial software produced for it.

[Melodionxxx]

Yeah its a lot better, but I have a long term theory about the future of Linux.

The more it gets dragged into the real world issues of multiple hardware support, mainly gfx cards and sound cards, the more it will run into the real world problems that Windows has been wrestling with for years. It will then display all the annoying bugs/driver version/hardware version incompatibilities that we are used to in the PC world because these problems are features of modular softward design not the OS.

Then it will lose the halo of innocence it has preserved solely by virtue of the fact that it hasnt really every played in the real world.

It gets worse then, because there are so many versions of Linux, there will be enormous problems with the same bugs/incompatibilites spread over several versions of the OS.

Its fine for running gimped down, limited functionality office apps and its great for running character based consoles like server applications, because its simple and has the advantages of any Unix based system when it comes down to serving.

Wouldnt have one in the house tho.

MeloxXx

[Turook]

Mel I think it's more the point that it's open source, you don't have to pay someone a couple of mill to be able to get access to a kernal to find out how it works so you can write a video driver to work with it. Yah so you have to be a wiz to write your own drivers, so what. How many times have you installed a device for it to telll you the drivers aren't windows certified, they still seem to work.

I can remember back to the days when matrox millenium where the best video cards out there. Thats cos they were 1 of the few that paid microsoft to get access to the inner workings of their OS.

[Melodionxxx]

I think it's more the point that it's open source

That makes it worse, who you gonna rely on to produce updates for your particular flavour of Linux, for your particular gfx card?

Open Source = supported when someone thinks its cool to do it.

MeloxXx

[Turook]

I think it's more the fact that it's the people that actually know a little about the computer world and not the ones that click on random icons to "see what they do" that use Linux. I have used both Windows, Linux and a Mac and I still remember the good ol' days of Dos.

No matter what you use someone will have their whinge that such and such is better, sure, now get over it and use the one you like and leave the geeks huddled in their back rooms laughing at the idiots that use XP.

I use XP on 2 machines, Win 98se on another, and a heavily modified version of linux on yet another plus server 2003 on my server. They all do the job that I want them to do. It's all about choice I think, so long as you have a choice and are well enough informed to make your own decisions, by the end of the day it'll all be ok