Vista 64 & EQ

Kimosavi · Post by **Kimosavi** » Mon 09 Mar, 2009 2:54 pm

Howdy Peeps,

Just ordered a Dell laptop (Core 2 Duo T9550, ATI 4570, 4gig Mem, 500gig Drive) with Vista Home 64 pre-installed (will be reformatting it with Vista Ultimate 64).

Anyone have a similarly specced laptop and can let me know how EQ runs under Vista 64. Is it box friendly ? What setting will get me decent performance ?

I'll be getting rid of the desktop PC (Q6600, 8800GT, 4gig Mem) and plan on running EQ from the lappie (havent told the wife yet but she can deal with it or make her way to the door).

The new lappie arrives on 16th so I'm hoping to get back to raiding again after I have set it up

Post by **Thoraf** » Mon 09 Mar, 2009 5:03 pm

sounds like you're getting rid of a better desktop than I run as my main machine

Creac · Post by **Creac** » Mon 09 Mar, 2009 5:05 pm

Weo, Artremas and I all run EQ on Vista 64, although it's on Desktops.

The specs of your laptop seem more than fine, though.

The best (and I would suggest only) way to run multiple accounts is with EQWindows. It also works just fine under Vista 64.

Roryanne · Post by **Roryanne** » Mon 09 Mar, 2009 5:25 pm

I have your old system running 64 bit and have 0 issues with EQ.

Creac what is EQWindows? I have 2 22in LCDs and I don't need to use any extra apps to run multiple EQ instances.

Falern · Post by **Falern** » Mon 09 Mar, 2009 5:52 pm

I also run EQ on Vista 64 without any problems (operating system wise, though my hardware had a couple of issues until Saturday). I run mine under WinEQ2, which also includes EQPlayNice. EQPlayNice (EQWindows may have an equivalent, not sure) is important if you want to run multiple EQ's on the one box - it slows down the graphics on the windows you currently aren't using without lagging the game - I disabled this temporarily and nearly fried my last graphics card because I forgot I disabled it

Falern.

Creac · Post by **Creac** » Mon 09 Mar, 2009 6:15 pm

EQWindows, WinEQ - same thing.

It's software for running multiple instances of EQ at once. I can easily run them without it, but it runs and makes them so much easier to use and costs bugger all.

Falern · Post by **Falern** » Mon 09 Mar, 2009 6:29 pm

Nah there's actually another product out there called EQWindows (Googled it after your post

) for running EQ in a window.

WinEQ2 - http://www.lavishsoft.com/wineq2/
EQWindows - http://www.eqwindows.com/

Falern.

Creac · Post by **Creac** » Mon 09 Mar, 2009 6:34 pm

lol - interesting. Well, use WinEQ2 from Lavish ftw!

Suzuko · Post by **Suzuko** » Wed 11 Mar, 2009 12:57 am

I bought a new laptop last year in June with Vista Ultimate 64. It a HP HDX with the funky 21 inch screen. Running a Intel Core2 Extreme Processor 2.8 ghz, Nvidia 8800, 4 gig RAM, with 2, 300 gig hardrives.

I box often and dont use winEQ, I usually play either 4 or 5 toons when boxing alone and have never had problem on full settings. Thats also running my tunes and of course Facebook!

I love my laptop! Only problem I had was finding a bag big enough to put it in.

Kimosavi · Post by **Kimosavi** » Thu 12 Mar, 2009 11:03 am

Just the processor alone on yours Suz costs about as much as the whole laptop I am buying to replace my old desktop machine so thats quite a speed difference. Even though the processor on mine (T9550) runs at 2.66ghz its nowhere near the performance of the Extreme Core 2 Duo chips and your onboard vidcard trounces the ATI 4570 on the Dell.

If only they could make lappy GPU's interchangeable I'd rip it out and pop a better one in

Suzuko · Post by **Suzuko** » Thu 12 Mar, 2009 3:50 pm

It gives me wood, but the laptop you have purchased is still very nice and should have no trouble at all.

Creac · Post by **Creac** » Thu 12 Mar, 2009 4:55 pm

You can buy laptops with exchangeable/upgradable GPUs, but they're not cheap

Tenam · Post by **Tenam** » Mon 06 Apr, 2009 1:04 pm

Creac wrote:lol - interesting. Well, use WinEQ2 from Lavish ftw!

I'm not at home, so can't get on EQ to check it out. I can download the file just fine, for what I assume is a trial thing, but it appears they want me to pay $10 for 90 days? Is there a way to keep it free? I'm of the opinion that I already pay enough just for my EQ subscription, and I don't want to subscribe to much more just to play EQ... the same reason I don't have a magelo profile (also because I'm too lazy to manually update my profile).

Creac · Post by **Creac** » Mon 06 Apr, 2009 5:33 pm

It's not a Sony product so, no, you can't keep it for free.

Falern · Post by **Falern** » Mon 06 Apr, 2009 6:01 pm

From memory you need to create a login on the Lavish web site and then you can use the basic functionality of WinEQ2, but you need to pay to get the full features or something.

Falern.

Vexo · Post by **Vexo** » Mon 06 Apr, 2009 11:55 pm

The free stuff is plenty in my experience. You just get window resizing and shit in the stuff you buy?

Falern · Post by **Falern** » Tue 07 Apr, 2009 12:58 am

Looked it up, straight off the main page

Lite features include forcing the game into windowed mode, session-switching hotkeys (two-way cycling and global activation), custom window titles, custom eqclient.ini and eqlsPlayerdata.ini for EQ1, automatic CPU round-robin (improving overall performance on PCs with multiple CPU cores) and more.

Pro features include custom window presets (such as Full Screen Emulation and Tiny), Picture-in-Picture, window tiling, video capture, window resizing, dual monitor support and more!

Falern.

Vexo · Post by **Vexo** » Sat 08 Aug, 2009 12:33 pm

Soo, can you copy your EQ from a 32-bit computer to a 64-bit computer without a hitch?

All I'm getting is "Patching EQ" and then it closes.

Vexo · Post by **Vexo** » Sat 08 Aug, 2009 12:41 pm

It's a learning experience... /notes down 'Run As Admin'

Vexo · Post by **Vexo** » Sat 08 Aug, 2009 12:53 pm

Super... it's repatching the entire game... guess that means you can't just copy it...

Fingers crossed, I'll make raid tomorrow :/

Post by **Thoraf** » Sat 08 Aug, 2009 2:04 pm

umm yeah you CAN copy it. you've fucked somethign up

I've copied between xp vista 32 and win 7 64 np

can't imagine vista 64 would be any different

Vexo · Post by **Vexo** » Sat 08 Aug, 2009 2:33 pm

Thoraf wrote:umm yeah you CAN copy it. you've fucked somethign up

I've copied between xp vista 32 and win 7 64 np

can't imagine vista 64 would be any different

Just one of the regular "bugs", I figure. It downloaded stuff for about an hour or two, then went to "Download complete", but still said "Updating", not allowing me to hit "Play". Fiddled around for a while, trying to restart patcher, do full scan etc. etc., until finally just starting WinEQ and running it through there. Works fine, even if SOE can't get it straight.

Falern · Post by **Falern** » Sat 08 Aug, 2009 7:38 pm

I've never quite figured out the whole copying EQ thing, in general, your mileage may vary. Half the time I when I copy it between computers or to/from the external storage when reinstalling it then downloads everything, half the time it's fine. Maybe when I copy it using the mouse in my left hand it works fine or something /shrug

If it was patched before you moved it it will work fine on the new box regardless of whether SOE wants to repatch or not. You can also use add the PATCHME flag to an EQ.exe short-cut if you don't like WinEQ, i.e., change the Target to...

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Sony\EverQuest\EverQuest.exe" PATCHME

for a 64-bit OS.

As for the greying out... it does that whenever a window stops responding (locks up), and these can happen a bit more often in Vista/Win7. One thing that sometimes helps if you have networked drives...

Go to Internet Options (either in your control panel or in the Tools menu for Internet Explorer, yes Internet Explorer you read right).
Click on the Advanced tab
Scroll down to the Security section in the advanced settings
Deselect the option "Check for publisher's certificate revocation"

Also, if you have a decent anti-virus and stuff on the computer, I disable Windows Defender too... you'll find it in the Control Panel as well, look for the Settings button up top then scroll down.

hth

Falern.

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