EQ in a Window - How To.

Kathodos · Post by **Kathodos** » Fri 10 Jan, 2003 1:52 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>January 9, 2003 3:00 am ------------------------------ ** EQ in a Window ** EverQuest can now be run in a window. To place EverQuest in a window, simply press Alt-Enter. You can also switch out of EverQuest to another program by using the familiar Alt-Tab. It is important that you do not do this until you are in-game, do not do this during the login process. It is important to note a few things. Running the game in a window may reduce game performance a bit. And, as always, the more programs you have running at the same time the more resources they use. At this time, due to some changes that need to be made on the front end, it is not possible to run two instances of EverQuest. We will be working to make the necessary changes over the next few weeks.<hr></blockquote>Firstly, you cannot activate windowed mode until you are in the game. This means after you have selected your character from the character selection screen, and have loaded into the zone. Playing with it now on the Test server, it looks very clean. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> To Activate Windowed Mode Press ALT+ENTER. EDIT: On the Test Server Only, ALT+TAB, CTRL+ESCAPE, WINDOWS KEY, and other combinations that normally take the active program out of focus in Windows will also bring you out of EverQuest's Full Screen Mode and into Windowed Mode. If when you press these key combinations the game flickers out of Full Screen Mode into Windowed Mode and straight back to Full Screen Mode, try holding down the key combination until the EverQuest program has finished resizing into a window. To Release the Mouse in Windowed Mode Press SHIFT+ALT+R. This Key Combination can be changed under ALT+O -> Keyboard -> Select Category: UI -> Release Mouse Cursor. When used, the Windows mouse cursor will appear on top of the EverQuest window and you can use it as normal. To UnRelease the Mouse in Windowed Mode. Cilck the Windows mouse cursor on the EverQuest Window. To Deactivate Windowed Mode With the EverQuest Window in focus, press ALT+ENTER. <a href="http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=59365" target="top">Kathodos</a> - Battle Cleric of Tunare - Tholuxe Paells
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Boppin · Post by **Boppin** » Sat 11 Jan, 2003 1:05 am

and in the meantime they managed to break <a href="http://www.eqwindows.com/" target="top">EQW</a> way to go verant - break the functionality that's already out there before you even get your own working fully <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":p"> Boppin<hr>Who me? I'm just <a href="http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.h ... 28">Boppin Along</a> <Wreckers> Sacrificial Assling Dr00d.

Kathodos · Post by **Kathodos** » Sat 11 Jan, 2003 1:59 am

1. EQW typically breaks every time the EQGAME.EXE is updated significantly. It's happened several times in the past. I'd call this a pretty big update. 2. SoE has never supported EQW, so why care if it breaks? 3. The ALT+ENTER system seems to work pretty well. With the exception that EverQuest doesn't yet support multiple instances of EverQuest running at the same time, it works pretty well. <a href="http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=59365" target="top">Kathodos</a> - Battle Cleric of Tunare - Tholuxe Paells
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curtis · Post by **curtis** » Sat 11 Jan, 2003 2:18 am

Is anyone else thinking Dreamcast? Little man does the ground work, makes a better than sony product. sony use corporate muscle to implement the same idea, usually years later, and usually inferior, which destroys all the good work the little guy did. I say use EQW...too little too late sony. <hr /><a href="http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.h ... 
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Boppin · Post by **Boppin** » Sat 11 Jan, 2003 3:03 am

yeah curt, out of that generation of consoles, DC was definitely the sweetest. a pity it wasn't marketed or carried very well in Oz

Daesun · Post by **Daesun** » Sat 11 Jan, 2003 3:53 am

Or in the US.. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/frown.gif ALT=":("> Huntress Daesun Quenya - Forest Stalker of Tunare "SHUT UP AND SNARE DAESUN YOU POS RANJA"

curtis · Post by **curtis** » Sat 11 Jan, 2003 4:22 am

It was ground breaking stuff too, it paved the way for PS2. Without DC, PS2 would still be on sony's drawing board. (I'm talking accessories and connectivity type things here mainly, not so much graphics) But from the day it came out, it was destined to recieve the exact treatment it got. copy the ideas, and blow them out of the water with a glossy product backed by a marketting machine. <hr /><a href="http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.h ... 
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Kathodos · Post by **Kathodos** » Sat 11 Jan, 2003 5:22 am

After playing with the Windowed Mode a bit this morning, things I would like to see: <ul><li>Support for multiple instances of EverQuest on the same machine (SoE said this is being developed).</li><li>Being able to enter Windowed Mode from the moment you run EverQuest (EULA screen, after clicking PLAY on the updater).</li><li>Rather than "Auto Recapture" of the mouse when you bring the EverQuest window back into focus, make the window have to be in focus and the Mouse Release key be pressed in order to reclaim the mouse.
This would make it cleaner to flick between applications without having to unlock the mouse repeatedly, which soon gets annoying.</li><li>Allow Windowed Mode to be activated when zoning and when you get the "YOU HAVE BEEN DISCONNECTED" message. Allow the mouse to be unlocked when you are disconnected.</li></ul>I'm still impressed that they pulled it off so cleanly in the first attempt. I expected weeks of agony. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> <a href="http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=59365" target="top">Kathodos</a> - Battle Cleric of Tunare - Tholuxe Paells
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Boppin · Post by **Boppin** » Sat 11 Jan, 2003 5:30 am

aha, so basically what you want Kath is EQW a real shame this was all available to you until last night's patch, eh? <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/tongue.gif ALT=":p"> Boppin<hr>Who me? I'm just <a href="http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.h ... 28">Boppin Along</a> <Wreckers> Sacrificial Assling Dr00d.

Kathodos · Post by **Kathodos** » Sat 11 Jan, 2003 5:56 am

Actually Bopp, I mainly want to see those to quell the bitching that I'm reading on every freaking board. That's the summary of what would make everyone happy from what I can see. I didn't use EQW. I'm quite happy with EverQuest's new windowed mode. EDIT: BTW, as I said to someone on the Cleric board, did you log into the test server to test the windowed mode? Did you /bug and /feedback your thoughts? Did you /bug and /feedback your thoughts since it's been released on the live servers? Don't complain about the government if you didn't go and vote. EDIT2: EverQuest Windowed Mode also allows me to revert the game BACK to full screen mode, something that EQW never did. I can also reconfigure the mouse release hotkey. These two features have made it more functional for me than EQW ever was. With the above mentioned adjustments, it should satisfy the die hard EQW fans as well. <a href="http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=59365" target="top">Kathodos</a> - Battle Cleric of Tunare - Tholuxe Paells
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curtis · Post by **curtis** » Sat 11 Jan, 2003 6:39 am

But doesn't change that the little guy has been pissed on for doing what sony should have done. Long Live EQW! <hr /><a href="http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.h ... 
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Boppin · Post by **Boppin** » Sat 11 Jan, 2003 7:03 am

true, switching between windowed and full screen modes was on JSD's list of "features to add" for some time, but seeing as he was developing it in his own time it's fair enough that it didn't make it to release. there's really no excuse for sony to have paid JSD a couple of $k for his work and take it themselves from there. it's been so thoroughly beta tested because of their own intransigence on the issue they could've concentrated on adding extra features to it eg: mode switching, shared texture/model memory spaces for multiple instances (this more than anything will make "2-boxing" on one machine more feasible) Bop. ps this'd be more fun if it wasn't so easy <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D"> /em waits for the "stfu assling" <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/laugh.gif ALT=":lol">

Kathodos · Post by **Kathodos** » Sat 11 Jan, 2003 7:29 am

/agree Curtis. EverQuest should have supported Windowed Mode from the beginning. /bonk Boppin. Obligatory "stfu assling". I think Shared Memory Spaces might be a bit beyond their coding knowledge. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"> Would only work for the Global Models Files anyway, unless you were in the same zone. Still, that could be anywhere up to 128 MB of memory saved with Luclin models on. <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> <a href="http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=59365" target="top">Kathodos</a> - Battle Cleric of Tunare - Tholuxe Paells
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Kathodos · Post by **Kathodos** » Sat 11 Jan, 2003 8:04 am

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>EDIT: On the Test Server Only, ALT+TAB, CTRL+ESCAPE, WINDOWS KEY, and other combinations that normally take the active program out of focus in Windows will also bring you out of EverQuest's Full Screen Mode and into Windowed Mode.<hr></blockquote>Seems this may not be just on the Test server as I suspected. It looks like it may be a problem with EverQuest (and not TestEverQuest) under Windows XP. I saw this over on <a href="http://eqlive.station.sony.com/lowsrc/c ... p?id=53589" target="top">EQLive > Dev Corner</a>...<blockquote>Quote:<hr>More about EQ in a window When running EverQuest in a window you may wish to unlock your mouse. To do so, use the SHIFT + ALT + R key combination. You can change that key combination under Options - Keyboard. I also wanted to remind you that ALT + ENTER and ALT + SHIFT + R do not work until you get into the game - character select currently ignores them. We are also aware of an issue that has occurred when trying to use ALT + TAB with EQ in a window with Windows XP. Essentially, Windows XP keeps a list of program compatibility information. Unfortunately, for EverQuest it specifically disables ALT + TAB. We're working on a solution to this issue. Alan<hr></blockquote>This made me remember a post that Daesun put up a while back called <a href="http://pub55.ezboard.com/fwreckingcrew5 ... =106.topic" target="top">Defeat the EQ alt-tab nerf</a> about modifying Windows XP's preconceived notion that EverQuest was specifically locked out form using ALT+TAB. From memory, the rules in Windows XP did not apply to TestEverQuest.exe which would explain why I could ALT+TAB and such on the test server, but not when the windowed mode went to the live servers. Applying the ALT+TAB patch previously would allow you to ALT+TAB on all Windows XP systems, but on most it would just cause EQ to fail and close. Now with the windowed mode, this may be the short term solution to being able to ALT+TAB until SoE fixes it. <a href="http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=59365" target="top">Kathodos</a> - Battle Cleric of Tunare - Tholuxe Paells
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Boppin · Post by **Boppin** » Sat 11 Jan, 2003 9:55 am

LMAO JSD is on the ball! <a href="http://www.eqwindows.com" target="top">EQW</a> is fixed <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"> Get version 2.32 <a href="http://www.eqwindows.com/eqw.zip" target="top">here</a> and you can "single dual-box" again <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/happy.gif ALT=":D">

Kathodos · Post by **Kathodos** » Tue 14 Jan, 2003 12:01 am

In regards to my previous post, looks like I was on the money. This just in from <a href="http://eqlive.station.sony.com/communit ... p?id=53598" target="top">EQLive! -> Dev</a>...<blockquote>Quote:<hr>How to get Alt +Tab to work for Windows XP Windows XP keeps a list of program compatibility information. Up until recently, EverQuest was not built to allow Alt + Tab, and so our executable ended up in this list explicitly preventing the Alt + Tab functionality. Obviously that has changed. We are working on getting that changed. But in the meantime, if you are using Windows XP and you would like to enable Alt + Tab, there is a way to get it to work. First, you'll need the <a href="http://download.microsoft.com/download/ ... /act26.exe" target="top">Windows Application Compatibility Toolkit</a>. It's nearly 7 megs. You'll need to download and install the toolkit. Then: Open the Compatibility Administration Tool. At the top go to Search - Query. Search for EverQuest. Double click the item the search finds. Right-Click the EQGame.exe entry and choose Disable. Thanks to everyone that found this solution and pointed it out to us. Alan<hr></blockquote> <a href="http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=59365" target="top">Kathodos</a> - Battle Cleric of Tunare - Tholuxe Paells
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