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Yet another item website

Posted: Wed 08 Feb, 2006 5:37 pm
by Verroth
Nice website Khatnip from the SK boards put together. Works much faster for me than allas when I am just looking up stats for items, etc.

http://www.khatnip.com/

Is useable by all classes and she is constantly doing upgrades to it.

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Posted: Wed 08 Feb, 2006 7:18 pm
by Vexo

Posted: Wed 08 Feb, 2006 8:25 pm
by Borneheld
I use that one too Vexo

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Posted: Wed 08 Feb, 2006 8:54 pm
by Vexo

Posted: Wed 08 Feb, 2006 9:06 pm
by Golgolath

Posted: Sun 12 Feb, 2006 12:04 pm
by Turook
I still want to know about link bots, can anyone explain it better than it has to me so far. Do I have to make my own or ?

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Posted: Mon 13 Feb, 2006 2:33 am
by Vexo
People have set up bots on different servers, who react to stuff like 'mold' by sending you back links of items with 'mold' in the name. So basicly, you can "/tell LinkbotXXX Phenomenal" and you'll get back a link to the wizard epic (and other stuff that has Phenomenal in its name)

Posted: Mon 13 Feb, 2006 10:08 am
by Turook
Yeah umm thanks for clearing that up???

How does the bot get it's links?
How do they react?

Halfway there but still doesn't tell me how to set one up or can you use other peoples?

Posted: Mon 13 Feb, 2006 3:37 pm
by Verroth
I believe what Tookie is getting at is the linkbot names. Most are on various servers, not aware of one on Bert atm.
Basicaly it is a crosserver tell to the "linkbot" with a portion or full name of the item you are looking for and it will send you back a link.

Posted: Mon 13 Feb, 2006 6:20 pm
by Warriar
He wants to know how to set one up from what i understand, not what they do but how they do it

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Posted: Mon 13 Feb, 2006 7:50 pm
by Vexo
He seemingly wants to know everything about them :p As far as I know, it's a script you run which allows a logged in char to link back items. And by now you should have figured out by yourself, that it smells alot like MQ, eventho I'm not sure it is. Already told you how they react, if that's not to the detail you want, I suggest you search RPGExpert, who probably has a guide to setting one up.

If that doesn't help, I can refer you to a post Mazia made not too long ago, that springs to my mind atm :)

Posted: Mon 13 Feb, 2006 8:21 pm
by Verroth
Would also be nice to maybe sticky a post on the boards somewhere with known linkbots for use. Everytime I learn of one I wirte it down then lose the paper i wrote it down on:P

Posted: Tue 14 Feb, 2006 10:39 am
by Mazia
Its a bit of a time thing but perhaps Weo or Thoraf could fix the guild links page. Its been broken for a while - I just suck and have no idea what I am doing with php.

Thats said also there are other priorities as far as tools go really.

Posted: Wed 15 Feb, 2006 3:04 pm
by Turook
Yes Warriar, I am usually more interested in how/why something works rather than how to use it.

Thanks Vex and Ver, that cleaned up the main thing I was trying to figure out.

Anyone want to post the names of the link bots they know of?

Posted: Thu 16 Feb, 2006 10:10 am
by zappity
you can (or used to be able to?) link any item through some kind of code. perhaps these bot programs keep a database of all items and their respective codes. when you send a tell they run a quick query in their local DB then simply create the link using the code which is sent back to you?

MQ worked with the eq data which was stored in your computers RAM (i thought), rather than hacking into eq's actual servers ... i cant see it being mq related at all myself .. kinda doubtful a listing of all items and their stats is kept in ram hehe

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Posted: Thu 16 Feb, 2006 5:56 pm
by Vexo
"bot program" and you dun think it smells like MQ? Might not be MQ, but it's the same basic idea... use computer power to do a mans job.

Posted: Thu 16 Feb, 2006 6:24 pm
by zappity
yeah it has to be a macro type of thing, i guess when i think mq i generally think warp/ghosting hacks etc rather than its typical use

Posted: Thu 16 Feb, 2006 6:30 pm
by Kofn
Linkbots have nothing to do with MQ. Comparing the two is like saying using a log parser is similar to using MQ.

Linkbots are really chatbots, that is they log into the EQ chat servers (not the game servers) and then listen for commands, either by monitoring a channel or directly from tells. They get a command (e.g. !link), look up some database somewhere, or maybe even screen scrape from Lucy, and then just give a chat response back.

I've idly thought about writing one myself to do various things, like reports on raid members that put in for loots showing raid percentage, last loots, etc.

Unfortunately apathy > me

Posted: Thu 16 Feb, 2006 7:49 pm
by Vexo
Log parser is illegal? omg :/ Or is logging into only the chat server whatever legal? If not, still smells like MQ to me, even if not MQ. Jist of the thing is, it's exploiting the code on a more basic level than playing the game with legal means, e.g. man-power, etc.
But nice info. I thought a toon was logged in somewhere, running the stuff.

Posted: Fri 17 Feb, 2006 6:30 am
by Kofn
Actually linkbots are considered against the EULA and Sony closes them down if they find them.

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Posted: Fri 17 Feb, 2006 6:51 am
by Vexo
Thank you.

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Posted: Mon 20 Feb, 2006 8:23 pm
by Vexo

Posted: Tue 21 Feb, 2006 7:19 am
by Melodionxxx
Yeah Weo, I reckon a linkbot would be the coolest, the think I would like to implement (but never will) would be a back to back link with a chat program like Yahoo Messenger or somethin. Or mebbe Trillian if it provided an API.

MeloxXx

Posted: Tue 21 Feb, 2006 11:14 am
by Kofn
That already exists Melo, although I've never used it and have no idea how good (or otherwise) it is.

http://teqim.sourceforge.net/?p=teqim

Use at own risk :D

Posted: Tue 21 Feb, 2006 11:51 am
by Melodionxxx
The fun is in the writing, not the using =) I dont do chat out of game really!

Actually on looking at it, it doesnt seem to be what I'm talking about. That plugin allows you to use Trillian to talk to folks in EQ.

I am talking about being able to chat in EQ chatbox with folks who dont even have everquest. Not sure if its possible =) You would need to have an EQ account to talk to, mebbe some kind of forwarding. e.g

;tell bertox.melochat <MSNUsername>, Hey Mr MSNUser, how you doin!

I doubt you can spoof users/servers, but it would be cool if you could and have chats like

;tell msnusers.MSNUserName Hey Mr MSNUser, how you doin!

One project I worked in was customising Lotus Notes Sametime Chat. The idea was to have a helpbot, that could respond to natural language queries and it would mail you documents etc. Never took off tho, but i think chatbots are fascinating. They already exist in the form of SMS chatbots, the saddest of all being porn chatbots that talk dirty! I mean... how fkn desperate are some folks =)

MeloxXx