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Do Americans frustrate you?

Posted: Sun 18 Oct, 2009 12:59 pm
by curtis
Here is the salve for your ire. This reminds me that Americans can be great! Remember, they are not all bad, some truly shine.

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Posted: Sun 18 Oct, 2009 6:11 pm
by Mynks
LOL. Yeah Jon Stewart is awsome, deffinatly worth watching :D

Posted: Sun 18 Oct, 2009 9:04 pm
by Golgolath
watched video. still hate americans. <3 stewart though

Posted: Mon 19 Oct, 2009 7:13 am
by sazxus
Stewart Is Awesome. I love Colbert too.

Oh and FU USA haters I'll have to leave it there. . .

Posted: Mon 19 Oct, 2009 1:36 pm
by Tenam
"Do Americans frustrate you?"
Holy generalizations, Batman!

Posted: Mon 19 Oct, 2009 9:28 pm
by Vexo
Sanar wrote:"Do Americans frustrate you?"
Holy generalizations, Batman!
What? Why can't a people frustrate? Doesn't state that every single American is frustrating.

Posted: Tue 20 Oct, 2009 1:03 am
by Golgolath
Vexo wrote:
Sanar wrote:"Do Americans frustrate you?"
Holy generalizations, Batman!
What? Why can't a people frustrate? Doesn't state that every single American is frustrating.
Because it's a meaningless statement, technically. The differences between two random individuals are so insanely huge by themselves, far bigger than the difference between two different cultures, that a statement like "all Americans are x" or "americans are frustrating" is simply pointless.

Let's not forget that the United States has a) 300 million citizens, and b) the most socially, economically, and culturally diverse population in the entire world. Funny story: I can walk outside in my neighborhood and notice that about 60% of my neighbors are either first or second generation immigrants, most from China, Japan, or India. Somehow, I don't think they're the ones people talk about when they say "americans are frustrating." Most people refer to the prototypical loud, boistrous, arrogant, racist, fundamentalist, gun-loving, simple-minded clown. I don't like those people any more than you do, but they're hardly representative of the population as a whole.

I've met plenty of people from a wide variety of countries that I can relate closely to, and hundreds of Americans that I just can't understand at all. Why? Because everyone's different. Including Americans :p

Posted: Tue 20 Oct, 2009 9:19 am
by Tenam
I don't know... my wife gets upset when I talk about "Korean people blah blah blah" even if I'm like "But not you!" because it doesn't account for all the ones that don't. :P

Posted: Tue 20 Oct, 2009 9:57 am
by Vexo
Golgolath wrote:
Vexo wrote:
Sanar wrote:"Do Americans frustrate you?"
Holy generalizations, Batman!
What? Why can't a people frustrate? Doesn't state that every single American is frustrating.
Because it's a meaningless statement, technically. The differences between two random individuals are so insanely huge by themselves, far bigger than the difference between two different cultures, that a statement like "all Americans are x" or "americans are frustrating" is simply pointless.

Let's not forget that the United States has a) 300 million citizens, and b) the most socially, economically, and culturally diverse population in the entire world. Funny story: I can walk outside in my neighborhood and notice that about 60% of my neighbors are either first or second generation immigrants, most from China, Japan, or India. Somehow, I don't think they're the ones people talk about when they say "americans are frustrating." Most people refer to the prototypical loud, boistrous, arrogant, racist, fundamentalist, gun-loving, simple-minded clown. I don't like those people any more than you do, but they're hardly representative of the population as a whole.

I've met plenty of people from a wide variety of countries that I can relate closely to, and hundreds of Americans that I just can't understand at all. Why? Because everyone's different. Including Americans :p
It's a way of stating "stuff". You don't go "Holy fuck, those people should just eat shit and die... except that guy off to the right, who's not involved, the two people in the front who's only partly to blame and the twenty people who haven't seen what's going on... and maybe not the guy with the bat, because he could just be going to a ballgame".

Generalisations are only evil to the extent that the person speaking it and/or the person hearing it, does not understand that they can only ever be generalisations.

In which case, I'm sure they're American.

Posted: Tue 20 Oct, 2009 10:35 am
by Golgolath
least we don't live in windmills :p

Posted: Tue 20 Oct, 2009 11:19 am
by Tenam
Yeah, Golgo. Do Europeans frustrate you?

Posted: Tue 20 Oct, 2009 11:44 am
by Golgolath
only frenchies~