some kind of useful faction info I havnt seen before

Mazia · Post by **Mazia** » Wed 11 Dec, 2002 11:22 pm

"Long time reader first time poster I used to be known on Rallos Zek as "The faction Master" I have a 5mb log of my bone chip turnins to trooper mozo in field of bone to back up my faction list (this was back around kunark) Dimiz's faction table is correct (cept i never actually verified ally) however there are things you must remember the cap for modifiable faction is -2000 to +2000 from base. That doens't mean that after 500 kills you will be aimalbe Your base faction is adjusted by your race/class/religion Lets call the changable faction your "deeds" modifier. That can be changed by killing mobs and doing quests etc. That is the one that can go from -2000 to +2000 from its initial value (0) Now you have to take into account your race/class/religion Take me in fironia. Now you know that de's are kos The default faction for me in fironia was kos (it was -1000 for being a de and -1000 for worshipping innruuk and 0 for me being a cleric) Basically my faction was -2000 in normal form. If i had killed them to max kos it could have gone down to an effective -4000 (which would require 4000 hits to bring up to indifferent or 3500 to get to dubious) but since i decided to kill gobbies getting into cabilis i was able to overcome this and i am now maxxed at indifferent (-2000 from race/religion +2000 points from "deeds" modifier = 0 or indifferent faction level) I can get turned into a wolf (race modifier -1000) and im still indifferent (0 faction level) Take for instance some other factions such as the ghouls in 3rd gate neriak. De's have a +500ish race modifier to them. Every other race has a -500ish faction modifier to them. There is no way to raise it so every non de will start out kos. Basically thats the way faction works so in a nutshell you have 4 (ok really 6 parts to it) 1. "Deeds" modifier (changable through kills/quests) 2. Race modifier (changable with illusion) 3. Class modifier (not changable) 4. Religion Modifier (not changable) 5. Spell Modifier (alliance spells bard songs etc) 6. Item Modifier (faction items) The first faction hit you see when you kill a mob/complete a quest is the faction the npc is on (always) I hope this clears up the "Faction Mistery" Some things i know about des and frogloks are that de's get approximately a -500 to -749 point race modifier with frogloks (being that my chanter twink was threateningly to start with frogloks) Other than that i have no hard data. Also as to how many faction hits a mob/quest gives you to your "deeds" its very hard to tell without a cheat program. It requires getting a fresh faction level and basically checking your faction ever mob or every other mob to see how many you had to kill to see a change. Then doing another test to verify your data"

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